What Happens When Pastors Stop Playing Church | Guest Pastor Adalis Shuttlesworth – The Perdue Podcast EP 24

You Can Be Holy AND Human—And That’s What Makes Faith Real.

Hey friends! Buckle up because this conversation with Pastor Adalis Shuttlesworth is unlike anything we’ve done before. If you’ve ever felt like you have to be fake to be a Christian, or if you’re tired of churches that water down the truth—this episode is going to wreck you in the best way.

Adalis and Heather dive into what happened when her husband Jonathan took a bold stand during COVID, got kicked out of their church, and launched a multi-campus movement that now spans Pittsburgh, Fort Worth, California, and Arizona. You’ll hear the viral story behind “Check the News,” the most-quoted line that set thousands free, and why being real about your struggles doesn’t make you less saved—it makes your faith approachable.

We’re talking about the Holy Spirit without apology, why seeker-sensitive churches are failing a generation, and what it really means to choose peace over proving you’re right. This isn’t your polished, pristine church conversation—it’s raw, honest, and filled with the kind of truth that actually transforms lives.

If you’ve ever thought, “I want to say something but I can’t because I’m a Christian,” this episode will give you permission to be human while still walking in holiness. This is what maturity in Christ actually looks like.

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