Steps to Victory – Part 2 Lawson and Barbara Perdue

Jesus made victory available to every person on the planet through his death, burial, and resurrection. When you begin to understand that and identify with it. It is certain to lead you into victory.

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Steps to Victory

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Steps To Victory Transcript

  Praise the Lord, friends, and welcome to the broadcast. I’m so glad that you’ve tuned in today. We’re gonna be sharing today about the cross, and we’re gonna be talking about what the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ means to us. I have my wife, Barbara, and you don’t wanna miss this broadcast. It’s gonna be great, and it’s going to empower you to walk in the victory Jesus already won. Friends, it’s so good to have you with us today. I’m so glad to have Barbara with us. We’re actually sharing from one of her teachings on Steps to Victory. But Jesus made victory available to every person on the planet through his death, burial, and resurrection. And we really wanna talk about what that does when you begin to understand that and identify with it. I believe that’s really what leads us into victory. You know, when I was 14 years old, I went to Andrew Womack’s Bible study. I got baptized in the Holy Spirit when almost nobody knew who Andrew Womack was. But the other thing that happened to me is I really began to understand who I was in Christ. And that has literally changed my life. But I believe God has no respect for persons. And just like it changed my life, it can change your life too. So, we’re going to share this scripture in Romans 4:25. And, you know, it says this in Romans 4, verse 25. It says that he was delivered for our offenses and raised again for our justification. Now, when you really begin to understand that, it will transform the way that you live your life.


  There’s something I want you to bring out. You know, we’re talking about what Jesus has already done for us, and how he has already paved the way for all of us to live in victory when we receive him as our personal Lord and Savior. And I think it’s really good to bring out what Jesus did. It says he purchased us, or he redeemed. I want you to explain to everyone what that word redeem means. When we talk about what Jesus did going to the cross, in Galatians it says, “Curse is everyone who hangs on that cross.” He exchanged places. You know, a lot of times people say, I have a generational curse. No, you don’t. When we’ve received Jesus Christ, there is no generational curse.




  Jesus took the curse on that cross, exchanged places with us, redeemed us. Redemption bought us with a price. But what is that word redeeming?


  We’ve been purchased. We’ve been purchased by his blood. You know, Ephesians 1:7 says this, “In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his grace.” Thank God we have redemption. We have been purchased by the blood of Jesus. And when you begin to understand that he bought us, and he purchased us for a purpose. You know, Paul says, you know, “We are no longer our own.” You know, that we’ve been bought with a price, and we are to glorify God in our body and in our spirit, which are God’s. Not only is our spirit God’s, but our body is God’s. And when you understand that, and when you understand redemption, it will liberate you. When you understand what Jesus did in his death and resurrection, and you begin to identify with that. And there’s actually seven aspects of redemption, seven aspects of identification that we can find in the New Testament. Number one is we were crucified with Christ. Number two is we died with Christ. Number three is we were buried with Christ. Number four is we were raised with Christ. Number five is we are seated with Christ. Number six is we reign with Christ. And so, number seven we live with Christ. So, I’m crucified with Christ, I died with Christ, I was buried with Christ, I was raised with Christ, I was made to live with Christ, I’m seated with Christ, and I reign with Christ. And when you understand that, it literally changes the way that you live your life.


  I like it very simply too. Redemption or redeem means free and clear. The bill, it’s a legal term as well. It has totally been paid for.




  You know, it is a free gift.


  Amen. You know, in whom we have redemption through his blood.




  The forgiveness of sins. When you really understand the cross, you understand that our sin has already been paid for. The price has already been paid. And when you understand forgiveness in a New Testament sense, forgiveness means that you’re pardoned. and that there is absolutely no even remembrance of your sin.


  I think that’s powerful what you just brought out, what it means to be powerful. And I believe there’s someone watching right now, and you have just had so much shame and guilt over the past. And I want to remind you what the Bible says. It’s the devil, again, the deceiver who is the accuser of the brethren. It’s just that stupid devil whispering in your ear those stupid accusations. When we are forgiven, it’s over. He has helped me out with that scripture. He has removed our sin as far as the east is from the west. It is gone. There’s no more remembrance of it. You are forgiving.


  Amen, we need to understand that’s what the gospel actually is talking about. And Jesus actually paid for our sins 2,000 years before we were ever born. And so, there’s not a question in God’s mind, am I going to forgive them? The question becomes in our mind. The problem is many times in the church we have focused more on sin than we focused on what Jesus did and paid the price for our sin. And when you do that, you know, the Bible actually says this in Romans 3:20. It says, “By the law is the knowledge of sin. And a knowledge of sin will not free you from sin.” I understand you’ve got to realize that you’re a sinner. But the way to get free from sin is identify with what Jesus did for you in his death and resurrection. And understand that you’re already forgiven. You’re pardoned as if your sin was never. Never even committed. That’s how God looks at you. And when you begin to understand that, it liberates you. It changes the way that you live your life. Now, the church I grew up in, we preached, get saved, repent, don’t sin. Don’t sin, don’t sin. Repent, don’t sin. Repent, don’t sin. And our focus was on sin. But when I got baptized in the Holy Spirit, I began to understand who I was in Christ. I found out I am the righteousness of God. I am justified. You know, by faith, I am redeemed by the blood of Jesus. And it began to change the way that I live my life.


  That is powerful. And if you’re watching and you would like to call and receive prayer, we have prayer ministers waiting to hear from you and to agree and pray for you. You’ve just really shared some very powerful things, powerful scriptures. And would you like me to go on and read Hebrews 2?


  Yeah, we want to talk a little bit today about… We’re talking about the death of Christ, but about why Jesus died and why he came as a man. He really came as a man so that he could die. And when he died, he broke Satan’s power. So, not only did he pay the penalty for our sin with his blood, he broke the power of sin. So, go ahead and read there. In Hebrews chapter 2, verse 14, you can read through verse 16, but then you can go ahead and read verse 17 and 18.


  Okay, so if you have your Bibles and you want to follow along again, turn with us to Hebrews chapter 2, verses 14 through 18. “Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, he himself likewise, shared in the same that through death he might destroy him who had the power of death, and that is the devil.” I like that. He destroyed the power of death. Verse 15 goes on and says, “And release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For indeed he does not give aid to angels, but he does give aid to the seed of Abraham. Therefore, in all things he had to be made like his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propriation.” Did I say that right?




  Thank you. That’s a big word here. “For the sins of the people. For in that he himself has suffered being tempted, he is able to aid those who are tempted.” That is good news.


  Praise God.


  So, a number of things that are brought out. But just like, you know, we took on flesh and blood, Jesus. came in flesh and blood, and he came in flesh and blood so that he could die. And in dying, you know what? He broke Satan’s power. It says, “he came that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death.”




  That is the devil. You see, Satan thought when Jesus was crucified, that he was winning this battle. The Bible actually says in 1 Corinthians, I believe it’s chapter two, that when Jesus died, the princes of this world, it says if the prince of this world would have known what was gonna happen when the Lord of glory was crucified, he never would have done it. Because before Jesus died, he was dealing with one person in one place. that was full of God, full of the Holy Spirit, full of the power of God, full of the life of God. But after the crucifixion, Jesus paid the price for every man. Jesus, the Son of God, really became the son of man so that we, the sons of men, can become the sons of God. So, number one, it’s so he could destroy him that had the power of death. Again, he paid not only the penalty for sin, he broke the power of sin. The second thing, he did that so he could free us. Because it says, “All of our lifetime, we were subject to bondage because of the fear of death.” It says in verse 16 in the King James that he did not take the nature of angels. He didn’t become an angel. He became a man. You see, because God gave authority to a man, God had to get authority back through a man. So, Jesus came as the perfect man. It says, “then he became the seed of Abraham.” So, it says, “In all these things, he became like us that he might be a merciful high priest.” He’s merciful because he was tempted in all points like we are. And yet he’s faithful because he never sinned. And so, when you begin to understand that, it says now he can help us who are tempted. So, praise God if you need help. Help is here.




  Jesus is our help.


  That’s right. So, praise God. I just thank God for what Jesus has done. Barbara, before we have the break, I want you just to share a word of encouragement with the people here that are watching.


  Well, praise the Lord. I like what we’ve been sharing that, you know, Jesus paid the price. You are redeemed. You don’t have to keep carrying around all that shame and guilt and remorse. Hallelujah. Satan is the accuser of the brethren. And you can receive that. I’m just going to pray for right now. Dear Heavenly Father, I thank you for those watching right now, that they experience and get the revelation of freedom in you, that you’ve already paid the price for them.




  Hallelujah. And have set them free from every bondage.


  Amen. You know what? If you need to call in, feel free to call in. We’re going to take a short break and we’re going to be coming back, and talking more about what Jesus accomplished for us in his death and what that means when we really understand it. So, stay tuned. We’ll be right back. Friends, I’m so glad that you’re with us today. And I’ve been sharing with my wife, Barbara. And you can’t get everything that we’re actually sharing about in these broadcasts. But you can go to our website, and you can receive the teaching we’re sharing about in Barbara’s teaching, Steps to Victory, and my teaching, Complete in Christ, plus hundreds of other teachings. Blessings.


  We went to Pastor Lawson, and we said we were just, you know, needing some guidance and wisdom on how to believe or whatever. He said, “I feel like God is telling me you’re gonna get all this money all in one chunk.” We just started calling that money in. That money came. We got the check before the end of the year. And it actually there was it paid enough to cover all the medical debt. And there was $10,000 left.


  Friends, thanks for staying with us. We’ve been sharing today about what the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus accomplished for us. And we’ve been specifically talking about what it means to identify with Jesus on the cross. You know, Paul made a statement in Galatians 2, verse 20, and he said, “I have been crucified with Christ.” And when you begin to understand that, it will literally change your life.


  Amen. You know, we’ve been sharing a lot of powerful things, and they can actually get this teaching and download it for free off our website. no steps to victory, but I want to share Galatians 3.13. We’ve been talking about it, but I want you to see where it is in your Bible. So, write this down, go to the word right now, but Galatians 3.13 says, “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us, for it is written, cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.” He paid that price. He took the curse. You are not cursed.






  People need to understand that there’s so many people that think they’re cursed, but Jesus broke the power of the devil over us, and we are blessed in Christ, and we are not cursed.


  That right.


  When you begin to understand that, then I wanted, while you’re right there, just move into verse 14.


  True. It says, he did that so that the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ. that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. In the first half of the broadcast, we talked about how Jesus did not take on the nature of angels, but he became a man. And as a man, it says he became the seed of Abraham, so that we as men could begin to, Jesus as a man, anointed by the Holy Ghost, conquered the devil, overcame sin, so that we as men can begin to operate, you know, and I’m talking about humanity, right? Can begin to operate in the victory that he already won.


  Amen. There’s some other things that I believe have been taught as a lie. So, I’m very excited to share something out of 2 Corinthians chapter 8 and verse 9. We’re still talking about Jesus. “For you know that the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that you through his poverty might become rich.”




  That’s an exciting scripture to me.




  He has set us free in so many areas. of our life. And, you know, a lot of times the way I was raised, we were taught that it was more godly to be poor, and that’s really a sad place and a sad thought. He wants us to be blessed and rich in every area of our life, spirit, soul, and body. We know that 3 John 2 says, “Beloved, I wish above all things that you may prosper.”


  “Prosper and be in health, even as your soul prospers.”


  And so, I love this again in 2 Corinthians 8, and that, you know, he became poor. He came to earth and gave everything up and died on that cross, was beaten beyond recognition. You couldn’t even tell that he was a man.




  He was beaten so badly. And it’s just, to me, it’s really unfortunate when people don’t understand everything that he did for us, and that we need to be walking in this free gift he has given to us. A lot of times, again, people, I’m just going to bring it out because I feel like someone’s watching and needs to know this. A lot of times people blame God and his son Jesus for things that aren’t even his fault. And, you know, thinking that, well, God made me poor to teach me something, or God made me poor to teach others something. And that’s just so far from the truth of God’s word. Jesus did a lot of things that we would have a victorious life. And victorious life means in every area of our life.


  And the fact is, I don’t believe that God makes anybody poor.


  I don’t either. I don’t believe he puts poverty on anyone. I don’t believe that it’s the will of God for anybody to be in sin. I don’t believe it’s the will of God for anybody to be in anxiety, worry, and fear, torment. I don’t believe it’s the will of God for anyone to be sick. And I don’t believe it’s the will of God for anybody to be poor. You know, when you really understand the cross and what Jesus did on the cross, and that scripture in 2 Corinthians 8 verse 9 is talking about what Jesus did on the cross. And when you understand it, Jesus died and he took our sin, he took our anxiety, he took our sickness, and he took our poverty. And Jesus, you know, died so that we can receive the blessing of God spiritually, emotionally, physically. and financially.




  In Isaiah chapter 53 verse three through five, Isaiah actually 6 to 700 years before Christ saw Christ on the cross and he said this. He said, “He is despised and rejected of man, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. He says, “And we hid, as it were, our faces from him.” He’s talking about Jesus on the cross. I believe Isaiah literally foresaw Christ on the cross. And he said, “Surely, he has borne or carried our griefs and carried our sorrows. If you study those words out in the Hebrew, griefs is the Hebrew word koile. It means sickness, disease, grief, malady, anxiety, or calamity. Sorrows is the Hebrew word makov. It means pain, sorrow, physical or mental pain. So, he bore our sickness and carried our pain, yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God and afflicted. You just read Galatians 3 verse 13, where Christ redeemed us from the curse being made a curse for us. The reason I don’t believe that God is putting sickness on anyone is because he put it on Jesus for us. Jesus was judged in our place. Jesus took our sin, our sickness, our anxiety, our poverty. Jesus died so that we can receive wholeness spiritually, emotionally, physically, and financially. 2 Corinthians 8:9 is talking about the financial side, and it’s talking about the cross. Jesus became poor on the cross. When Jesus walked on the earth, now any condition on earth would be considered poor with where he came from. But when he walked on the earth, he wasn’t a poor man. He wore a robe that was so valuable, they cast lots for it. They wouldn’t tear it when they crucified him. It was made of one thread. He traveled with 12 men and paid the bills. That costs a lot of money. Jesus, you know, he took out of the treasury and bought enough food, right? They had enough money in the treasury to buy enough food to feed 5,000 men plus women and children. And yet… You know, Jesus took a little boy’s lunch and multiplied it and fed over, most people believe, over 20,000 people. So, Jesus wasn’t a poor man by any means. But at the same point in time, when he died on the cross, he left everything. And that’s what that’s talking about in 2 Corinthians 8, He’s like, Jesus is our greatest example. And he became poor so that we can be rich. And rich means rich. Now, it says this. He goes on in verse 5 of Isaiah 53, 5 and says, “But he was wounded for our transgressions.” That’s talking about our spirit. “Bruised for our iniquities.” That’s talking about our sin and our rebellion. He says, “The chastisement of our peace was upon him.” That’s talking about anxiety in our mind, our emotional area. “And with his stripes, we are healed.” And the word healed is the Greek word here, or the, excuse me, the Hebrew word, rapha, that means to heal, physician, cure, repair. The same word where the Lord says, I am your healer. I’m the Lord, your healer in Exodus 15,


  I’m so glad that you just shared all that. And I like what you brought out. how Jesus carried our griefs and sorrows. And you also brought out anxieties. I know there’s a lot of people watching this broadcast right now that have been dealing with a lot of sorrows, been dealing with a lot of anxieties. And I tell you, I have a powerful testimony. My entire childhood, my mother was a beautiful Christian woman, so nurturing, so caring and kind. But basically, my entire childhood, my mom was just oppressed with depression and anxiety to the point that she was on medication for it. And sometimes I’d come home, and my dad would have to tell me he had to take my mom to the hospital. I mean, this was a very severe situation. But my mother saw a broadcast on Christian television, again, when I was a very young little girl. My mother went from someone full of anxiety to an absolute faith giant. She just watched something where the Word of God just connected with her, and she said, Jesus. She just simply called on the name of Jesus. It wasn’t a fancy prayer. It wasn’t a long prayer. It was basically three words, Jesus, if you can do anything. And you know, the Lord showed up and she was delivered and healed of that depression, sorrows, and anxiety from that moment on. And I saw my mother transformed in a completely, totally different person, a woman full of faith and power. And she’s the one who taught me how to be strong in my faith and to understand how good God is. And so, I’ve got good news for you. You do not have to stay that way. You do not have to stay sick. depressed, sad, defeated anymore. God is here. He has sent Jesus Christ who has already paid for it and taken the authority, so that we can receive every good and perfect gift from above.


  Amen. And so, Jesus on the cross identified with humanity. in our place of need. And he took our sin, our anxiety, our sickness, and our poverty, and he provided for us spiritually, emotionally, physically, and financially. And because he took it, we don’t have to take it anymore. Praise God. You don’t have to live with that garbage. You can start believing God for his promises. Now, this doesn’t mean that you’re never going to have any challenges. You know what? When you begin to understand the gospel, you might expect some challenges. You know, the parable of the sower, Jesus said everything works like this. And the very first thing the scripture says is when the word was sown in their heart, immediately the enemy came to steal that word out of the heart. But when you believe it, you can grow up and you can win the victory on every side because Jesus took these things for us so that we can walk. in the victory that he has already won. That’s why Jesus died for us. That’s what Jesus did on the cross. Amen. He took these things, so we don’t have to take them anymore. Praise God. Some of you that are watching today need prayer. You may need prayer for healing in your body. You may need prayer for anxiety and deliverance from Satan’s power. You may need prayer for a financial need or a relationship, whatever that is. We have trained prayer ministers that are waiting to receive your call and minister the gospel to you. Barbara, I want you to just say what you want to say here to the people before we go off the broadcast.


  Well, I have good news. There is a God. He loves you, and He has sent His Son, Jesus Christ. to pay for everything for you to walk in absolute victory in every area of your life. Jesus said that he went to the pit of hell and took the keys of death. He took all authority. And when he says, I have all authority and I’m giving it to you.


  Amen. So, if you need prayer, you give us a call. I’m going to be back right at the end of the broadcast to pray with you. Friends, we have a great meeting coming up here at Charis Christian Center, June 12th through June 16th. We have special meetings for your children, your youth, and the adults. We have great worship with Philip Renner. We have Mark Hankins. We have David Winston speaking to the youth. Save these dates, June 12th through June 16th, 2024 at Charis Christian Center. Blessings.


  Jesus has already paved the road to victory for us. The Bible gives us clear direction on how to walk down this road, and live a super victorious, abundant life. Now is the time to take the steps to victory. We’d like to bless you with the digital copy of Pastor Barber’s three-part teaching, Steps to Victory, and Pastor Lawson’s three-part teaching, Complete in Christ, a $27 value free of charge. Download your copy today at


  Friend, we don’t want to leave this broadcast without giving you the opportunity to pray with me and receive Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Pray right now. Heavenly Father, I believe that Jesus Christ is your son. I believe that he died on the cross for my sins. I believe that you raised him from the dead on the third day and made him Lord. And right now, I surrender to you in Jesus’ name.


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